-- Start log: Tuesday, May 4, 1999 7:11:53 pm Old Pueblo MOO time --

michael has arrived.
Burton has arrived.
Burton says, "hi michael"
michael says, " say burton -- sorry i'm late"
Burton says, "I only just arrived - I was lost in cyberspace"
michael says, " trying to open a site here ... give me a sec, please ...."
Burton says, "take your time"
michael says, " haven't seen mike or the others?"
Burton says, "do we need to comment on our Moo experience?"
Burton says, "no, not as of yet - I lost them in the English dept. earlier"
Gloria arrives.
Burton says, "heres one"
MichaelV arrives.
MichaelV says, "hello"
MichaelV says, "sorry I am late"
michael says, "i just got an e-mail from lisa -- she can't make it"
Gloria says, "'Hi, Mike"
Burton says, "hey - where you been?"
MichaelV says, "I could have told you that"
MichaelV says, "getting dinner"
MichaelV says, "so it is the four of us?"
Burton says, "problem with using a Univ. comp. is that I can't have a glass of wine!"
MichaelV has potatoe wedges and Gatorade for anyone who wants some.
michael says, " be right back -- (burton -- ignore the comment on our Moo experience thing -- it's from another class)"
Burton says, "breakfast of champions"
Burton says, "ok"
MichaelV says, "dinner of softball champions... hopefully"
Burton says, "right on"
MichaelV says, "so what did I miss?"
MichaelV says, "good to see you here burton"
Burton says, "nothing yet - every time I log on I go to Mikes place"
Burton says, "thank you - it is good to be here"
MichaelV says, "my room?"
Gloria says, "'Mike, where is the study session on Monday, again?"
MichaelV says, "with the blacklight posters?"
Burton says, "I guess, I type jin michaelv and I go there, but you are asleep"
MichaelV says, "it is in Social Sciences at 12"
MichaelV says, "noon"
MichaelV says, "I can't remember the room number, I will e-mail you"
Burton says, "yep thats it"
Gloria says, ""Thanks."
MichaelV laughs.
michael says, " anyone care to summarize this little experiment? should we pursue it? call/write the regents?"
MichaelV says, "cool, I need to work on my room description"
Sreshta arrives.
MichaelV says, "it is definitely something worth pursuing"
MichaelV waves at Sreshta.
Burton says, "It is worth pursuing, but how?"
michael says, " here are the listserv responses: http://www.u.arizona.edu/ic/moore/414/ipresponses.html"
Sreshta  waves back
michael says, " we could write a letter"
MichaelV says, "heck we could save the university a lot of money, make them pay us for the trouble"
Burton '' waves at Sreshta
MichaelV waves at Burton.
Sreshta says, "hey burton"
michael  can see the top of sreshta's head over his computer
Burton ''waves to everyone like a demented fool
MichaelV laughs.
Sreshta hides
Burton says, "semester is getting to me"
MichaelV *HUGS* Burton!
michael says, " getting to me, too burton ... it's been a long one!"
MichaelV hmms.
michael says, " anybody here graduating this semester?"
Burton says, "thanks - but back to the issue - the regents are as lost as we are, how to rock the boat more?"
MichaelV says, "not I"
Burton says, "nor I"
Burton says, "1 more year"
MichaelV cries.
michael says, " we can write a letter documenting the confusion based on their textual ambiguities"
Gloria says, ""Till December"
Burton says, "they would "file" it - phone is a better approach"
michael says, " gloria -- how many responses have you gotten?"
Gloria says, ""Do you think it will actually get priority over the junk mail?"
Burton says, "I responded"
Burton says, "unlikely - some junk mail has coupns in it"
michael says, " you're all so cynical! you think a letter that mentions "litigation" five times won't get read by the regents?"
MichaelV says, "by writing a letter they will have something in front of them pointing out other people know about their ineffectiveness.  Phone calls are easily forgotten, nothing tangible"
michael  agrees with michael: letter = paper trail
MichaelV nods at michael.
michael says, " where;s erangi?"
Falco guest has arrived.
Burton says, "letters can be tossed out - equally intangible"
Gloria says, ""I got five students and one by the name Susan San Jule "
Burton says, "email trail"
Sreshta says, "she said something about a 5 page Geoscience paper""
michael says, " burton -- true ... but we can 'cc' a letter, unlike a phone call"
Falco guest says, "is this the English 101 study group?""
michael says, "falco? John?"
Burton says, "true, cc it to Az. Daily Star, Citizen, Wildcat etc"
Burton says, "no, sorry"
Falco guest says, "thanks, bye""
michael says, " falco ... no I think they're in the auditorium"
MichaelV says, "wave falco"
MichaelV says, "oops"
MichaelV waves at Falco guest.
Burton says, "101, I wish this was that easy"
Falco guest says, "autatorium?  Thanks a bunch""
Sreshta (asleep) has disconnected.
michael says, " hey ... if you type @who, you'll see how many people are on -- they're doing a 101 exam study session."
MichaelV boots Sreshta in the head!
MichaelV says, "wake up"
Burton says, "sreshta bailed already?"
Burton says, "I would be willing to make phones calls after the 17th"
MichaelV says, "so how do we go abou writing this letter?"
Falco guest goes out.
MichaelV says, "I think this is WAY more interesting than the Students Against Sweatshops sit-in"
Burton says, "Think about a letter, slow to read, slower to act upon - eventually its too late"
Burton says, "true, and lacking in hypocrisy as well"
michael says, " Burton ... aren't letters the conventional way to do business? seems a phone call is easier to blow off -- i have an open mind about this, though ..."
MichaelV says, "you may get answers on a phone but they could easily lie to you, are you going to tape record them? besides you already said they were as lost about their terminology as we are"
Burton says, "down with Nike, up with the GAP"
Sreshta has connected.
michael says, " how about i draft one and e-mail to you all this weekend? want to send it as a group?"
MichaelV says, "mail a letter and e-mail the same letter"
Burton says, "well, it depends how we present this, a personal call might elicit a better response than a letter"
michael says, " good point, Burton. To the Peggy person?"
Burton says, "ok, I'll meet you half way (sound familiar?) You send the letter, I'll follow up with the call"
Gloria says, ""We can direct them to our web pages and some of the respponses from the students."
MichaelV says, "you could write a personal letter to them as well..."
Burton says, "a letter should be professional -approach this as if we were doing a news story"
MichaelV says, "so then shouldn't we make a professional phone call?"
Burton says, "get the facts, be nice, and then crucify them"
michael says, " tornado: http://www.cnn.com/WEATHER/NAmerica/us.reg/sat.sc.html"
Burton says, "A professional call is still a better human touch than a letter - I eased Peggy (who greeted me with distrust) into saying more than she probably should have"
MichaelV says, " I can't copy and paste the web addresses, so now is not a good time for me to look at them, can you give me a brief synopsis?"
michael says, " Gloria -- I wouldn't want them poking around our homework ... it's all rather informal on this end. the fact gathering isn't for display ..... ya know?"
MichaelV says, "burton you smooth talker you"
michael  smiles at Burton
Gloria says, ""I guess?"
MichaelV winks at Burton.
Burton says, "oh yeah, thatme - mister congeniality himsefl"
Burton ''laughs
michael says, " it's not like we're tryin gto trick them, nor are they the enemy. it's a text problem, we're text wizards. *shrug*"
MichaelV pokes at Sreshta.
MichaelV says, "hey man do youu have an opinion?"
Burton says, "yet they treat the students as opposition, especially in light of the recent SAS sit in"
Burton says, "especially how dare we critique the regents policy"
MichaelV says, "no kidding, to quote MJ I believe her name is, "Likins is pissed.""
michael says, " to recap: i'll send a draft letter to you all this weekend, and mr. congeniality will follow up with a phone call. right? it would help to know when they're voting on this thing ... i think someone said May ...."
MichaelV says, "uh... it is May"
Burton says, "after grad weekend etc"
Gloria says, ""So soon?"
Burton says, "I have all summer"
michael says, " I don't know. any volunteers to call and see when they vote?"
michael  dumps it all in burton's lap
Burton ''wipes off lap
Sreshta says, "I wish I could help ... but come 20th I'm outta here""
Burton '' changes clothes
MichaelV hides in fear.
Burton says, "I'll call, just email me the number etc"
MichaelV grins and slaps Burton some skin in a high five.
MichaelV says, "right on"
Gloria says, ""Michael, who is Susan san Jule?"
Burton says, "I love taking on powerful corrupt institutions"
michael says, " gloria -- she's a grad student"
Burton says, "oh, yes, and the regents too"
michael says, " I think professor warnock is stuck in the walkway"
Burton says, "I'll find out what Conn. State U's policy is, my mother is a trustee up there"
MichaelV says, "wonderful to think that we attend school under a corrupt institution "
Burton says, "under a corrupt gov't, the list is long"
MichaelV says, "want me to get him?"
michael says, " say mike -- yeah -- go see if it's him: j.d. guest"
MichaelV says, "ok."
MichaelV leaves.
Burton  stretches
Sreshta slaps michaelv
Burton says, "now, this is a non-violent demonstration"
michael says, " we just got another listserv response .... "Thus access to the University computer lab is not significant ...""
Burton says, "define significant"
Burton says, "I rack up huge hours on the Journalism's computers"
Gloria says, ""If it comes down to it, can they really prove we significantly used this stuff?"
michael says, " " we are interpreting "significant" to mean only those resources not usually available to all students or not available by virtue of one's status as a student. ""
MichaelV arrives.
Burton says, "like a significant other"
michael says, " thanks, mike"
MichaelV says, " I do not believe it was him, I asked if he was professor warnock and he didn't respond"
MichaelV says, "then I asked if he needed to talk to type the quotation mark key but he said "no.""
michael says, " okay mike -- thanks. i thought it might be him ...."
Burton says, "so, are we clear on the steps?"
MichaelV says, "recap for me"
Burton says, "write, call, crucify?"
MichaelV says, " I was on assignment"
MichaelV says, "sounds pretty clear to me"
Burton says, "crucifiction is only an option"
michael says, " burton, i think so ... i just want to make sure ya'll really want to do this. you don't have to for the extra credit, but you did the leg work, not me. so your names should be on it ...."
Burton thinks of life of Brian
MichaelV says, "I believe it is spelled crucifixion"
Sreshta (asleep) has disconnected.
michael  passes everyone a cold beer
MichaelV says, "I am goingto have to take off point burton"
MichaelV says, "Hey mike is this being recorded?"
michael says, " yes"
michael says, " why?"
Burton says, "i spelled the fiction into tis as a joke - after all, aren't we having a form of fictional "gathering""
MichaelV says, "you just passed us a beer"
Burton says, "cheers"
MichaelV opens his beer and takes a swig.
michael says, " the last day of the semester, right? we're adults. you hooligans were outta control before ...."
Burton says, "I'll do this Michael because it is interesting, "
MichaelV laughs.
michael says, " Thanks, Burton."
MichaelV nods at michael.
MichaelV says, "point well taken"
Burton blushes
michael says, " any new business?"
michael says, " is this weekend okay for the draft?"
Burton says, " go Jazz!"
michael says, " gloria -- is the Report coming along okay?"
Burton says, " I don't have time to write up much, but if you send me an outline, I'll tidy it up"
Gloria says, ""I'm waiting on any late comers for responses, but typing should begin tomorrrow morning."
michael says, " the big ugly banner is still there: http://www.coh.arizona.edu/coh/walid/english414/frontpage3.html"
Gloria says, ""Walid is going to change that I don't know when."
michael says, " just from a design viewpoint, there are three major elements competing for the viewer's eye ....... "
Burton says, "so Michael, what exactly is the game plan?"
Gloria says, ""What is that?"
Sreshta has connected.
Sreshta leaves.
Sreshta arrives.
michael says, " Burton, I'll post a draft this weekend, we'll try to mail it next week, and you'll follow up with a phone call. Mike, how does that sound to you? You and I will do the draft when we meet about the MOO office -- okay?"
MichaelV says, "sreshta you having problems?"
Burton says, "sounds eminantly fair"
michael says, " Gloria, wat part would you like to play?"
MichaelV says, "sure mike, I was going to meet with you tomorrow, is that too soon?"
Burton says, "can I consider this part of the meeting closed?"
michael  used to be like, a world-class speller
Gloria says, ""I don't know, I haven't really done much."
michael says, " Burton -- yes sir! Thank you ...."
MichaelV says, "I am going to have to take points off of you too Mike."
Burton says, "totelle"
michael says, " Gloria -- want to make the call and find out when it's scheduled to be voted on?"
Burton says, "Lady, Gentlemen, I bid you all a fond farewell, until we meet for beers on Thursday (2pm?)"
Gloria says, ""I guess I can, what's the number and who would know this, secretary?"
Sreshta says, "this computer keeps freezing when I have too many stuff open ... "
MichaelV waves at Burton.
Burton says, "Next THursday - not dead day"
MichaelV says, "I will miss you smooth talker."
michael says, " Tuesday the 13th, Burton ..."
MichaelV grins.
MichaelV smirks.
Burton hugs michealv
MichaelV says, "ahhh"
michael says, " oops ..... thursday?"
Burton floats around the room to prove he can fly
MichaelV says, "burton I will be in touch regarding our project"
MichaelV says, "darn!"
Sreshta says, "Hello ... which month are U in???"
Gloria says, ""I thought it was on Tuesday."
Burton says, "thanks MV, g'night all"
michael says, " Thursday."
michael  waves to Burton
Burton says, "NOT DEAD DAY though, roght?"
Sreshta  asks mike if he wants to talk about CW
Gloria says, ""Bye, Burton."
MichaelV says, "the one after"
michael says, " NOT dead day, right."
Burton says, "right, roght - at this point in the semster, whats a letter among "fellow scholars"?"
michael says, " which mike?"
Sreshta says, "mike V""
Burton says, "bye"
michael says, " Bye, Burton!"
Burton in a puff of smike, Burton disappears
MichaelV laughs.
Burton says, "its like smoke, only hipper"
Sreshta says, "Added staff page ... created some images ... but computer kept freezing on me ... darn!"
Burton (asleep) has disconnected.
michael says, " Gloria ... got a sec? what was the thinking behind that banner? do you like it?"
Sreshta says, "wanna meet Thu after 5?"
MichaelV says, "sreshta you upstairs?"
Gloria says, ""Walid was acting like he was busy, that's all."
MichaelV says, "or ML 512"
michael says, " what's your opinion on the banner?"
MichaelV says, "acting?"
Sreshta says, "you downstairs?"
MichaelV says, "yes... "
MichaelV says, "hey mike I am thinking if we are done here it is cigarette break time"
Gloria says, ""I don't care, I just thought you wanted different from Cornell."
Sreshta says, "lets meet after a ciggy!!!"
                              ____________________________
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michael holds up a BIG sign: | I like these signs. Kinda. |
                             |____________________________|
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MichaelV holds up a BIG sign: | these big signs are cool! |
                              |___________________________|
                               ______________
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MichaelV holds up a BIG sign: | SMOKE BREAK! |
                              |______________|
Gloria says, ""I'll have to break for good."
MichaelV says, "me too"
                              _________________________
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Sreshta holds up a BIG sign: | last one out is a loser |
                             |_________________________|
MichaelV says, "have to play some killer softball tonight, for a t-shirt"
                               ________
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MichaelV holds up a BIG sign: | WOHOO! |
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michael says, " Gloria .... it's not what *I* want ... there are some design conventions to attend to .... and I just didn't think the banner added much except clutter. I'm just one opinion, though."
Sreshta (asleep) has disconnected.
MichaelV says, "mike I will be in the breezeway for 10min or so then I have to get to the field"
MichaelV says, "bye gloria, I will e-mail you with the study group time"
MichaelV waves.
Gloria says, ""I have worked on approximately 15 pages today, I don't care.. the cornell format is simple and academic... perfect."
MichaelV says, "have a nice night guys"
Gloria says, ""Thanks, Mike..do you think it will be this weekend?"
michael says, " Okay Gloria .... keep in touch, good luck with your others classes and stuff"
MichaelV says, "I meant the study group through class, I have no idea about the small study group with about 4 of us.. we haven't even talked about it yet"
Gloria says, ""I still have to turn in the last report Michael, I'm not leaving yet."
MichaelV says, " will be in touch gloria"
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MichaelV holds up a BIG sign: | GOODNIGHT! |
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michael says, " Okay ... I'll be right back ... 5-7 mins"
MichaelV (asleep) has disconnected.
Gloria says, ""Well let me know if you can, okay..Hey"
The housekeeper arrives to cart Burton off to bed.
Gloria says, ""I won't be back, but I'll talk to you later."
michael says, " Okay -- e-mail? See you soon, Gloria."
Gloria says, ""Bye."
michael goes out.
Gloria (asleep) has disconnected.

-- End log: Tuesday, May 4, 1999 7:58:13 pm Old Pueblo MOO time --